Christ, you niggas would keep this thing going on for pages if I didn't step in. To paraphrase what I said to pirate yesterday and to restate and add to what I already said in the thread, killing players and minges (because this sometimes extends to non-minges and people that players simply don't like or agree with) is bad because it leads to a variety of situations that can be entirely avoided by simply involving the administration, who act as the moderators to the server and the community, not necessarily as the DMs (which varies between admins and some do more than others). I don't know what the exact context was that led to Adderall shooting the player to begin with (sounds like the minge was using a black model with the name gentleman Joe), but once you shoot and kill a minge, you hinder and potentially ruin any potential chance of converting a random player into a long time member of the community. You frustrate that player and cause them to act out unfavorably, you insert the seed that they're a problem player and a minge, you form a bias that will likely take weeks if not months to be changed (the idea that this person is a minge through and through), and you add to the overall OOC sentiment that breeds mistrust and goes against the idea of collaborative efforts. Are all minges capable of becoming long time members who are worth keeping around? Of course not, but killing them and causing them to get rowdy, ultimately getting them kicked or banned, is a net negative because all you've done is given yourself a momentary peace (in this case, the guy immediately came back and started punching Adderall). Stop acting out, the administration team is here for a reason and we don't spend hours of our day in the server, usually with more than one of us on at a time, so you can take things and deal with it yourself.
As a side note, I'm referring to the city specifically, since I don't spend much time on S2 and I can't speak for the admins that frequent there, so don't tack on complaints about them not wanting to break RP to teleport or refund you scripts.
Getting back on topic regarding pirate's ban, I spoke with Zippo already and he agreed to let the ban be removed. However, that doesn't mean I don't disagree with having given pirate a temporary ban, because at the end of the day, the administration does deal with a multitude of requests all day, especially during active hours, and we don't need unnecessary attitude when things could be discussed civilly. Also, it's really not the fact that either side used the word retard that's offensive, pirate was the one who called into question Zippo's administration twice ("be honest here would u have bothered responding because in my experience the answers no u wouldnt have lol" and "awful lot of them around if uve got such dedication").
I'm locking this thread. Open up a CCC for further grievances, retards.