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well, of course. i didn't say that toast couldn't be stopped and apprehended because of recording material etc. admins just said this couldnt happen when in reality, it could happen and the CCA are big enough boys to stop it from happening after the fact. though invisible people in the room shouldnt be thing

I can agree with you there, but to say that in the nexus, let alone, the ARMORY, there wouldn't be a camera (because the CCA can be infiltrated, people can steal the weapons and supply outside forces ICly) or some kind of surveillance, is being blissfully ignorant to justify this situation.
 
Sure, other units were around that could've caught him, or whatever, but they didn't. He was stopped by an admin in an OOC fashion.

I fucking hate people that go 'well the CCA would've done this and the Resistance would've done that so your roleplay is null and void'. If the CCA would've stopped Toast then fucking stop Toast instead of assuming it would've happened. I would assume there were a lot of units on at the time, Toast isn't the type to do this sorta thing when the server is on a low population. So what's the issue?
 
MemeTeamSupreme said:
I can agree with you there, but to say that in the nexus, let alone, the ARMORY, there wouldn't be a camera (because the CCA can be infiltrated, people can steal the weapons and supply outside forces ICly) or some kind of surveillance, is being blissfully ignorant to justify this situation.
ah my friend can i please direct you to these posts


Xeanos said:
Okay, guys. Some people here seem to be missing the big picture so I'll fill them in on what happened.

  • Toast approaches Sid(the legend)'s CP unit.
  • Toast convinces Sid that he is a new unit and asked to see MadWetUndies' FC for an interview
  • Sid says ok. Brings Toast into the Nexus without searching him.
  • Both parties head for the armory.
  • In the armory toast pulls a gun on Sid and tells Sid to undress or he is going to kill him
  • Sid plays a character and that character doesn't want to die
  • Sid undresses all his gear
  • Toast incapacitates sid and ties him up
  • Toast wears Sid's gear and pretends to be Sid's unit.
  • Toast goes about his way in the nexus
  • admins step in
Xeanos said:
well, of course. i didn't say that toast couldn't be stopped and apprehended because of recording material etc. admins just said this couldnt happen when in reality, it could happen and the CCA are big enough boys to stop it from happening after the fact. though invisible people in the room shouldnt be thing
 
any time we try to pull out the presence the cca would realistically have, it leads to even more drama

try again
 
ah my friend can i please direct you to these posts

My bad entirely, I literally read as that as like "recording", as in writing down what someone took out of a place. Excuse my inability to pick up on the context there, partly due to me trying to pay attention to physics right now.
Overall, this is a fucked situation and should just be redone.
 
well watch me today and ill show you how to administrate probably and create the nexus accurately for an infiltrator if you want

when this scene goes down today i will be making it the fucking hornets nest of activity that its supposed to be with using npcs, mastermind and a lot of dispatch notes
toast will be challenged

that is if the poof accepts the request which we know he isnt brave enough to do so :^)
 
Xeanos said:
who are you

e; if you dont know what to tell me you should probably get an adult
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Toast approaches Sid(the legend)'s CP unit.
Toast convinces Sid that he is a new unit and asked to see MadWetUndies' FC for an interview
- A radio exists in game for this. Was MadWetUndies actually online at the time? Are people's character's still present even when they aren't there? So far everyone in this thread is saying no.

Sid says ok. Brings Toast into the Nexus without searching him.
- At which point someone unidentified was in the nexus. Did anyone use dispatch to communicate this? That's an automated system that would've pretty much alterted every unit available if it wasn't radioed in.

Both parties head for the armory.
In the armory toast pulls a gun on Sid and tells Sid to undress or he is going to kill him
- The CCA has quarter masters. There no way the armory was abandoned. Again, are characters present even when they aren't online? If the answer is no, why was Toast let into the nexus to begin with?

Sid plays a character and that character doesn't want to die
Sid undresses all his gear
Toast incapacitates sid and ties him up
- In the armory that's completely abandoned without anything remotely resembling a camera? Right. If you admit a camera exists, was dispatch used? I'm going to guess no.

Toast wears Sid's gear and pretends to be Sid's unit.
- The event character who coincidentally matches toast's characters proportions pretty much exactly despite being a different gender? Please.

Toast goes about his way in the nexus
- Was dispatch tracking his every move? There's clearly something suspicious going on at this point.

admins step in


All the IC issues off the top of my head. There's plenty of OOC issues too, but apparently none of those matter.

The point being, the situation wouldn't have even happened IC. It would've progressed to toast entering the nexus and have been shut down. Done.
 
Excellent. You dissected IC issues. It's too bad the roleplay didn't take place but toasts did. That's not his fault. You're wasting your time here.

E: thank you for editing a point into your nonsensical post about circumstances and circumventions to a roleplay that happened.

Radio? Gee, it sure sucks Sid's character didn't have your hindsight.

Unidentified person entering the issue? Sid wouldn't have followed standard procedure (potentially) because he was escorting a combine asset.

IC quartermaster? IC guards and staff is hopefully not a thing because that's fuckin retarded.

Event character? No such thing. It was roleplayed. Stop disputing that.

Dispatch? Not everyone roleplays it effectively and it's generally a per player basis how it is operated. If no-one was keeping track of him, he wasn't kept track of.
 
well watch me today and ill show you how to administrate probably and create the nexus accurately for an infiltrator if you want

when this scene goes down today i will be making it the fucking hornets nest of activity that its supposed to be with using npcs, mastermind and a lot of dispatch notes
toast will be challenged

that is if the poof accepts the request which we know he isnt brave enough to do so :^)

I shall be there to see this unfold
 
any time we try to pull out the presence the cca would realistically have, it leads to even more drama

try again

The CCA has more than enough people to represent it's fighting force in any given sector. The IC guard rule was retarded on SRP and its doubly so here. A bigger organization doesn't automatically translate into more security, more often than naught in paramilitary organizations with little to no training it actually just means more cracks to slip through.
 
didn't we have NPCs around the nexus and in the plaza for a while on i17 around Ace's administration for this express reason
 
Anony said:
Excellent. You dissected IC issues. It's too bad the roleplay didn't take place but toasts did. That's not his fault. You're wasting your time here.

It only happened because of admin incompetence, laziness, or a bit of both. You literally handicap the CCA by not utilizing things as they are supposed to be, then say "Well it happened, so go with it." It's kind of bullshit. I know you really want to defend Toast, but it's nonsensical at this point.
 
The CCA has more than enough people to represent it's fighting force in any given sector. The IC guard rule was retarded on SRP and its doubly so here. A bigger organization doesn't automatically translate into more security, more often than naught in paramilitary organizations with little to no training it actually just means more cracks to slip through.

Can I ask? How many units were on when this happened?
 
K33f3! said:
I imagine you think the CCA operates with a lot of logic.
In an IC fashion, which is apparently all we're talking about? Yeah, pretty much. It's got a plethora of OOC issues, but those are irrelevant to the discussion.
 
Tazmily said:
didn't we have NPCs around the nexus and in the plaza for a while on i17 around Ace's administration for this express reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf9p_4r7fHk

yeah we did
 
Anony said:
Excellent. You dissected IC issues. It's too bad the roleplay didn't take place but toasts did. That's not his fault. You're wasting your time here.
How are you admin if you don't even understand your position? You clearly don't understand rule enforcement. You don't understand that admins can oversee IC incidents. You claim that admins aren't game master/dungeon masters. Help me out here. Because all I've seen of you in these threads is blind support for Toast and little understanding of your job.
 
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