Withdrawn SixtyLemming844 - Ban Appeal

[Ryai]

Hello it’s SixtyLemming844 or AKA Ricky Luz. I’m here posting an appeal to return back for ZRP and future projects for TnB. I understand the reason for my ban but let’s be real for a second, let’s take a moment and realize that those words are not slurs only to robots. The trend of saying “Clanker” started to blow up on social media and I posted saying words like that on a terminator post. But the word Clanker being used in Clone Wars. I do feel a permabanned is wayyyyy to much.

But again I understand how you feel and see it but againnnn not pointing fingers. Many members such as admins themselves said wayyyyy worse things but no actions was taken because lets me real, no one give fuck. We’re all adults here. TnB members have been getting eliminated for BS things. What happened?
But also not naming a certain admin probably going to say something on here and I know going to say some BS shit but getting permabanned for saying “Clanker” come onnnn. Don’t be childish. That is all


(posted on his request)

 

[erkor]

sixtylemming844 posted the n word with a hard r but replaced the n with a "CL" im pretty sure thats why he was banned

 

[Eorvek]

He’s also been a consistent spammer every time he’s been allowed to come back. Hopping on ricky luz just to basically interrupt rp whenever he was on server. Like putting aside the clanker debacle I’m just adding my two cents because the last 3 years I’ve seen him i’ve never really seen them acting in good faith.

 

[miguel]

didnt u get ur dickrider of a friend to purposefully go thru an admin's old ass yt channel to try and find dirt on them after ur ban

genuine noob i dont think we lost much here

 

[RyanC]

Spoiler

 

[straylight]

can't have your cake and eat it too, man. it's cool you want to play on servers in the present and future but almost the entirety of your presence here since january or so has been acting in increasingly antagonistic ways towards the folks who keep all of this "soft ass community" running; past a point you can't act too surprised whenever said folks get sick of it and decide that the resentment is a two-way street. judging from the replies that have piled up so far here it seems that not much of anybody else is keen on bearing witness to the profundity and wisdom you choose to impart unto this community either...

will let other mods and staff weigh in too but the outlook ain't looking great

 

[Dancer]

-1, I'm not personally interested in seeing him unbanned at this time.

As has been stated numerous times including in the warning and temp-ban he received, he was not banned for saying 'clanker,' hence why he was not removed from the discord in the days following his ban where he would spam it with his buddies.

On 2025/08/13, he made this post in the Post-Terminator RR thread. I shouldn't need to spell out that a large number of these terms are real slurs for various racial and ethnic minorities that have been slightly modified to focus on robots instead of people. This toes the line far closer than we're willing to tolerate, and the post was warned and hidden by a drop-down because we were initially willing to give the benefit of the doubt that it was thoughtlessly copied and pasted from elsewhere.



Upon receiving a warning for this post, he immediately doubled-down and posted the same list again in a snarky manner, before editing the post to be less directly hostile. You can see the revision here:



Because of this immediate doubling down, he received a temporary ban that was lifted on 2025/08/15.

The moment he was unbanned, he posted the following in the Shoutbox:



Once again, he immediately used a slightly modified real-world slur in the shoutbox. The other user who used the term received a warning for this as well. Given this was the third time he used such a phrase within the course of a week and the latest in a long trend of rule breaking behavior, SixyLemming844 was permanently banned. We had no reason to believe he would listen to further warnings, or be dissuaded by temporary punishments as he has consistently caused issues for a long time.

Despite trying to portray the appearance of what was said that got him banned as being some inconsequential and unreasonable thing, I'll point out that he's managed, despite continuing the joke for the last several weeks, to avoid saying any of the actual words that got him banned in the discord.

didnt u get ur dickrider of a friend to purposefully go thru an admin's old ass yt channel to try and find dirt on them after ur ban

genuine noob i dont think we lost much here

That was me. I posted a link to a clip of The Fairly Odd-Parents' 'The Nega-Chin', though obviously the name of the video was different, and the description of the now-deleted video contained several racial slurs in order to be caught in searches for the video. Is it a video I should have posted? No, of course not. I posted this link seven years ago, and it was screenshotted and posted on my profile posts page in a format that hides the link and instead just presents the original description as a message I posted directly to the discord. I can't tell you how this is done because I do not know, but the original link on the discord is still there. You can check what I did and didn't post. It was posted as a 'gotcha' for why we're apparently in the wrong for the enforcing the rules regarding slurs here. ShadowninjaYT was banned for this.

This was also not the first time SixtyLemming844 has either dug through discord himself, or via another person to try and display past usage of slurs of older members as a 'gotcha.' The other time was a more recent (5 years) example and was posted in the discord in retaliation for TheGr8Spade being banned for harassing someone with slurs. He was timed out for this, so he's been explicitly punished for this same behavior before.

People change, and sites change, we're not going to hold up people saying inappropriate things 5+ years ago as some marker of having them banned. But these things are not allowed, and continuing to say them contributes to a hostile and toxic site atmosphere. Trying to hold up these examples to smear peoples current character is not a sign that they're being hypocrites and that you should be allowed to continue saying whatever you want, it's a sign that things and people have changed and you have not.

 

[Dandy (dethroned)]

I agree with the other members of staff; I think this should be sustained for the time being unless a serious rebuttal with substantial grounds is presented sincerely, as opposed to a 'gotcha' attempt. I'm personally curious as to why you think it's alright to immediately double down on a post that's clearly racially insensitive, get a temporary ban, and then go straight back to the behaviours that got you banned and warned in the first place without some level of consequences? Surely you're aware of what you're doing.

 

[slug]

What’s the most telling to me is that this kind of behavior from you is consistent with how you’ve behaved since the very moment you joined. I cannot recall from memory a time where you weren’t being difficult, unnecessarily antagonistic and disruptive in or out of server. We wouldn’t even be in this thread if your response to the warning was just “ok, got it” and we moved on. No one would continue to drag that over your head, no one would mark you as being The Guy Who Got Warned That One Time. It would have been open and shut and it would have been behind us from that moment forward.

If you truly resent this place so much, why bother returning? And why should we bother pretending that an unban will go any differently than the last however many times you’ve pushed the envelope too far?

 

[Somedude]

You're unlikely to get anywhere by doubling down and pointing fingers at others who've said "wayyyyy worse things." If that were a valid reason not to enforce a rule, then no rule could be enforced. If you accept that you were wrong and commit to not being so antagonistic in the future, I think you'd find your odds of an unban increase. Until that happens I think your ban should be upheld.

 

[pirate]

If I had ever, one single time, seen sixtylemming seriously commit to roleplaying on any server in however long he's been here...

 

[Brealaran]

I concur with the rest of my colleagues, but write separately to detail some of my thoughts on why this permaban should stick.

Over the past few months, the use of various "slurs" for robots has entered the mainstream. These words have typically either been taken from Star Wars (to my knowledge, the first use of the word "clanker" comes from Star Wars: Republic Commando), other sci-fi media, or have been created as modifications of real slurs. Typically, this kind of thing would go through the motions of being a popular little thing and then die down. In fact, it largely has, with this entire discourse on robot slurs largely evaporating from the mainstream as quickly as it appeared. If this thread were solely about your using of these words, we wouldn't be having this conversation. You likely would have been unbanned, told to tone it down or stop using these words altogether, and had you done so that would have been that.

That is not, however, what happened. Instead, you doubled down, tripled down, and then went looking for meaningless dirt on a member of the staff team to make some failed point about hypocrisy. Very few of us are entirely innocent of having made jokes in certain circles that would be unacceptable in other circles. Fewer of us are innocent of having made jokes in the past that largely would be denounced now in most placed. A guiding principle at TnB is that so long as one's behavior elsewhere does not affect our community here, or does not rise to a certain level of heinousness requiring action here, then we have no reason to take action against that behavior.

I want to be clear, if the issue was solely your use of the words, then I can find no reason to affirm such a permaban. Though I do believe circumventing a real slur by changing some small aspect of it while retaining its intended degredation would be a 2-B violation, we simply have no rule against the use of slurs against robots. I don't really see an intent from you to be truly racist, homophobic, etc., but I do see an intent from you to intentionally stir up trouble. Besides our rule against flaming (2-C), though, I don't really see anything which forbids players from shit-stirring except possibly 2-D.

It is entirely your behavior after that point which demands that I agree with my colleagues here. The only path forward I see for you is to apologize to the staff member you attempted to smear and to realize that TnB is a different community now, and you will be disciplined for behavior that contravenes our community rules. In this case, we have a violation of 2-C keeping discussions civil and objective for the dirt-flinging and a possible, though lacking in evidence, claim of 1-C forum and discord spam.

Typically either of these, even when combined, would be insufficient for a permanent ban, but the character of the 2-C violation in particular demands a more foreceful hand. Since there is no outline of the range of discipline for violating any given individual rule, it seems to be entirely up to the discretion of the team to determine the most appropriate sanction. You have not shown an awareness of what you have done wrong, nor have you made any attempt to figure it out despite your bans. It is also clear you have a long history of doing this and have become used to no repercussions for your bad behavior. Because of this, I agree that a permaban is the appropriate punishment. You are simply not welcome here until you figure out why this kind of behavior is unacceptable.

The permaban should be affirmed.
-1

 

[Johnston]

honestly i don't think this needs to be a permanent community ban, but he should at least have to sit this iteration out. it's clearly something he wants. he's going to be denied that. it may make him actually reflect on his actions and, by the time the next tnb project rolls around that he's interested in, he might well have grown up some. or maybe not. either way, no; not yet. he should return in a year or whenever and actually offer some solutions instead of continuing to act like some victim of a overly-judicious "snowflake" administration.

folks: if someone tells you not to say or act a certain way, just stop. it really isnt that bad to check your words and actions in public spaces. you may not agree that a certain thing is problematic, and that's fine; but you still have to accept the rules if you want to play here. some self-proclaimed moral or ethical grandstand in the name of free speech or whatever is all well and good but it does carry consequences, as Mr. Lemming's case illustrates.

 

[slug]

I don't think anyone(?) was advocating for a full community ban. He still has access to the servers and the discord for now.

That, of course, can change if he wants to bring his behavior to those as well.

 

[Ryai]

I don't think anyone(?) was advocating for a full community ban. He still has access to the servers and the discord for now.

That, of course, can change if he wants to bring his behavior to those as well.

"I would write more but I’m tied up at work. I apologize for my actions, and mean no disrespect to the admin team. A few eh but the main staff team I do respect you guys and the community.

I’ll accept the ban, one final note. pirate stfu you are the least liked member in the community and I top you that says a lot

 

[Zombiedude101]

If he conducts himself in this behaviour in server he will be removed from there as well. If he doesn't, the ban here still stands until he demonstrates he can play nice. These are simple words to follow:


Nobody cares about you calling terminators clankers, but they do care when you start shitposting a heap of phrases (gearchucker? really??) to be some kind of boundary pushing edge lord and then resort to trying to smear someone...ooh god he posted a soundbite from a 20yr old kids show where they said "Negachin!" fast together... he must be a real racist... 7 years ago.. touch grass.

 

[Dancer]

"I would write more but I’m tied up at work. I apologize for my actions, and mean no disrespect to the admin team. A few eh but the main staff team I do respect you guys and the community.

Locking and closing the thread then, ban is being upheld.

Just to reiterate what's been stated above, please do not continue to toe the line or make a nuisance of yourself in the discords/servers. We did not extend the ban to cover these areas for a reason, and having that thrown back at us with dirt-digging and public implications that you were solely banned for saying 'clanker' is disingenuous at best and extremely disrespectful at worst.