Before the caves came out, and when there wasn't so many elaborate script sweps and items there was actually a lot of passive and organised roleplay. Its since then that people have started diving into script play with custom donation models, vests and weapons and its just turned into a complete rabble where everyone has forgot the sole purpose of the concept of 'rebels' being formed in the first place. Kudos to seal for trying to organise said rabble and direct them on a roleplay path but really its not solving the main issues at hands and characters are still acting like 14 year olds who think that when they're shooting that insanely powerful sniper rifle they're only firing a plastic M4 with bb pellets.