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Durriti - Avoiding roleplay / claiming bias

Discussion in 'Ban Requests' started by Drewerth, May 29, 2018.

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  1. Drewerth

    Drewerth nothing stops MY roleplay

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    OOC Name: Durruti
    SteamID: STEAM_1:1:431569939
    Character Name: Mick
    What happened: Without going too much into detail, I swapped to my drone to do some regular patrolling (was kinda bored on Mendoza, it's that kind of night) and ran into Mick + 2 others. Shot at them, they shot back, I chased them and eventually Mick separated and led me on a shorter chase to the Metro. She jumped in, shot at me from the walls and when I got close the character vanished to the underground.

    I promptly asked for authorizations in admin chat and, after trying to avoid a too long wait because I was standing in the open, asked scumbo directly who authorized me (reluctantly, I might add, because she was scared Durriti would flip out anyway and not roleplay). I walked around for a bit, saw them AFK on a bed so I just walked the other rooms which were empty and eventually found a cell with Murphy (He just got on and I let him go under the bed on account that he'd have heard me rummaging.

    It was going well until Durriti got back from AFK-town and ran up to me, emoted, then accused me in OOC of trying to kill of Mick / The Coalition on a drone because Mendoza, my Sergeant, doesn't like the group. I tried to inform him that such a thing wasn't the case, as did @scumbo and @Bongo. He wouldn't give in to accept the situation for what it was and is deadset on thinking I'm out to kill his faction.

    I'm not, it was a circumstance of the acts he did in character. He should know better but the admins couldn't get that through to him and teleported me out. This is just wrong, his acts of consequence should be taken in-character. What if it happens again? What if I corner him in a different place out of coincidence? I'm not saying it'll happen but will we see the same result of "he's targetting me"?

    I request a ban on behalf of him being incapable of taking an IC situation then resolving an OOC issue later (where we can simply retcon me going down the stairs if admins find me malicious). He couldn't handle that and is spamming me on Steam about being a fuckwit as we speak regarding this situation.
    Time it happened: Like 10 minutes ago.
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    Note: no logs will be editted (including irrelvent chatter) to avoid claims of editting or confusion)

    [SKYNET] T-800.6842: <:: Series 800, Unit 6842 is marked active in sector.
    'Scav': [OOC] Hit your noclip button.
    Detective Zero suicided!
    Mick: [OOC] brb rq
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] you can spawn things w/ collision now @Bob
    Garret Wychelm: [OOC] Thanks
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] moomaos last gift
    Pfc. Seyda Karim: [OOC] moomao is a legend
    Mick: [OOC] Back.
    'Scav': [OOC] **Fires a round at the terminator while it was up. Attempting to get a hit on its rifle or a good shot on its central frame.
    [SKYNET] T-800.6842: // where we fightin
    Pfc. Francys Culpo: [OOC] nobody gonna do anything about mick and iceman being in the middle of the road
    Pfc. Canaan Garland: [OOC] their problem
    'Iceman' Sam .B: [OOC] Shhhhh Timescale magic....
    Pfc. Francys Culpo: [OOC] huh
    T-700.2340: [OOC] Oh christ, why is Female_06 a thing? That makeup is so gaudy
    Tagging location rp_tnb_futurewar_night
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] one hot mama
    Maria Mendoza: [OOC] looks like the girls i dated in high school
    T-800.6842 (DREWERTH): [TO ADMINS] Requesting permission to enter the metro on the ground of one times 'Mick' trying to run circles around me and lead me on a 45 second chase before jumping the wall into the metro while shooting at me from within the metro wall.
    Pfc. Francys Culpo: [OOC] ** The next time the eight hundred decided to pop out with an RPG, it was shot at.
    [PM to T-800.FCD.0202] plz give me deliveration of the dsiregard for life this man has had
    [PM from T-800.FCD.0202] i would but they throw such an ooc piss over it
    [PM to T-800.FCD.0202] thats not an excuse. if duritti wants to complaint tell him to send it my way. im not a fan of people getting away with meme avoiding bullets bcause i have to s2m
    [PM to T-800.FCD.0202] i mean, he knows better and thisll teach them a lesson. especially if its ONLY HIM in there
    [PM from T-800.FCD.0202] go for it
    [PM from T-800.FCD.0202] ur authed
    [PM to T-800.FCD.0202] i onyl PK negligence. if he hides, he hides. if he shoots at me beligerantly...
    Player _Vintricus left the game (Disconnect by user.)
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] bro state of decay 2 is out
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] :blobhearteyes:
    Maria Mendoza: [OOC] late x1
    I know my intent sounds back in the above but it should be clear that I'm not actually going in to downright PK him. I'm not a fan of that. That's just stupid.

    [L] (T-800.6842) [EVENT] ** A familar thumping echoes throughout the trainstation. **
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] ur gonna be late to ur own funeral if u say that again
    Pfc. Seyda Karim: [OOC] bad reading x1
    Cpl. Karina Skarzynska: [OOC] mao will u come to my funeral
    'Scav': [OOC] late x1
    T-800.6842: [YELL] <:: Where are you, little human.
    T-700.2340: [OOC] So I just noticed. Why does Shinzo/Skyrim (pretty sure they're one person?) have access to almost every .50 cal sniper?
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] i wont even attend my own funeral
    Cpl. Karina Skarzynska: [OOC] because i'm a god
    Alice: [OOC] moomao it's a fun game
    Maria Mendoza: [OOC] same tbh
    Cpl. Katie Bell: [OOC] they have a large dick
    Alice: [OOC] it's like the first game but only with better things on it
    Alice: [OOC] rather than taking out anything bad
    Mariano Fortes: [OOC] moomao is a boy that i want to slap
    Alice: [OOC] i've not played it too much but it's very fun
    Cpl. Karina Skarzynska: [OOC] i'm only human its not like i use all of them
    T-700.2340: [OOC] But why all of them practically? lol.
    Pfc. Canaan Garland: [OOC] cause hes skyrim k
    Cpl. Karina Skarzynska: [OOC] ask the ppl who donate for all of them (i swear its not me)
    Alice: [OOC] zero let me help you wiht your characeter
    Player vika left the game (vika timed out)
    Zap430 killed moogmoi using trp_skynet_40watt
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] delta operator down delta operator down
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] DELTA P DELTA P
    T-700.8920: [OOC] Good
    I found nothing of interest. It was deserted actually, more than I expected. I walked around the old CnC and medical bay, looked in the windows to see if anyone was hiding but it seemed empty.

    [L] (T-800.6842) [EVENT] ** The sound of something metallic being torn from the wall is blatantly audible. **
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] ROB HELP ITS A DELTA P SITUATION
    Alice: [OOC] ONCE IT'S GOT YA
    'Iceman' Sam .B: [LOCAL-OOC] Well, guess I need to change characters....
    Maria Mendoza: [OOC] Breach that door commando
    Cpl. Jordan Crosier: [OOC] roger that engaging
    Alice: [OOC] IT'S GOT YA
    Pfc. Alexa Price: [OOC] delta is a meme squad
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] what
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] oh, youre in here IC?
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] Yah...
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] youre damn right it is
    Sgt. Luka Caine: [OOC] and im the meme
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] No where really too hide....
    Player BULLY HUNTER_77 left the game (BULLY HUNTER_77 timed out)
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] just do your emotes and whatnot. im not here on a manhunt
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] If you'd like to hide, be my guest as youd hear me rummaging through other rooms. If you'd like to be captured, it's up to you.
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] Well. tbh this charade was about to end tommorrow anyways. And I doubt people want to do a rescue Op right now...
    Player DJubbert left the game (Disconnect by user.)
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] i dont think you can get under it oocly
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] just emote it and youll be fine
    Player chad left the game (Disconnect by user.)
    ** Murphy Having heard the machine walking the halls, stowed himself away under the bunks
    [L] (T-800.6842) [EVENT] ** A rampant machine, fresh and new from the factory, blows through doors like no one's business. The floor cracks as it stomps into the center of the room and performs a quick visual scan. **
    Player HardHat left the game (HardHat timed out)
    (Murphy) ** The chair was still warm from use....but the rest of the room was cold on a thermal scan. **
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] I hope you hve auths and proof.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] I hope you get IC this very moment.
    ** Mick walks in, M60 at her hip.
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] If you don't have auths and proof, this is going to admins
    'Scav': [OOC] T-600.0202: [YELL] <:: SUBJECT WILL SURRENDER. 'Scav': [YELL] My name's not will and I ain't surredering. T-600.0202: [YELL] <:: OK.
    [L] (T-800.6842) [EVENT] ** The new endoskeleton turns to face Mick dead on. The monster barks an order into her face as it begins to close a distance, getting uncomfortably close. **
    Rob killed more like huh using trp_tc_30watt
    Pfc. Alexa Price: [OOC] that was beautiful
    T-800.6842: [YELL] <:: Identified human. Relinquish your weapons and prepare for processing.
    [SKYNET] T-800.6842: <:: Resistance will be met with termination.
    T-800.6842: [YELL] <:: Resistance will be met with termination.
    [SKYNET] T-800.6842: //oops
    [SKYNET] Emi: // I forgot I was on this radio.
    'Scav': [OOC] It truly was.. I'm laughing right now because I delt with that thing for a solid 6 minutes with no support and all of them are go ape shit.
    Cpl. Jordan Crosier: [OOC] you or your character
    LCpl. Sofia Sokolov: [OOC] I'm going to scream, Rob
    Pvt. Richard Carter: [OOC] I mean Morgan helped you
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Helo. What's up?
    Pfc. Francys Culpo: [OOC] wtf i just realized i've been listening to kh2 boss music
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] He needs auths to be here.
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] And to do this RP.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] I have authorizations from an admin, from SkyNet command, to be here.
    Jordan Rose: [OOC] Yo were the fuck am i
    'Scav': [OOC] this is america
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Okay, why wouldn't you show them? What reason do you have to be here?
    Pfc. Alexa Price: [OOC] whats kh2
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] You led me here.
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] especially after your conduct on Mendoza?
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] I shot at you and ran away
    Alex suicided!
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] hey now
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] And then I had to go afk
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] a hostile environment is no good for rp
    Alex suicided!
    [PM to Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn] He led me in here after about a 45 second chase and, once behind the metro walls, shot at me while I was still close and running after him.
    [PM to Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn] Scumbo authorized my coming in here reluctantly because she said he'd act just like this.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Well where do you guys want to go from here?
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] I want Drew to leave, lol.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] That's not how IC consequence works though. You got me to chase you, shot at me, and brought me here.
    [PM from Mick] Drew needs to get a fucking grip
    [PM from Mick] you do
    [PM from Mick] ill leave it at that and you can come talk to me
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Not neccessarily consequences, but cause and effect...
    T-800.6842 (DREWERTH): [TO ADMINS] [PM from Mick] Drew needs to get a fucking grip[PM from Mick] you do [PM from Mick] ill leave it at that and you can come talk to me
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Well how about this.
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] If we have to do this IC, I'd rather it roll back to the door being kicked in, and then just have Murphy on his chair.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] I even said to Scumbo upon authorization that if you hide, you hide. Just like Murphy behind me, he's hiding. You just walked up to me however demanding an OOC validation sided with an emote of "walked up to Terminator"
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Nobody is /me walks up to terminator
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] i gave an emote to solidify whether or not you wanted to RP
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] you obviously do not
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] If you guys can't or don't want to RP together..
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] You obviously want to target shit for P2W bullshit
    [PM to Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn] I'm all for the roleplay. He thinks I'm targetting him is the issue.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Fun RP can't take place in this environmnt. Too hostile
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Drew I dont want to fucking roleplay with you, and I dont want this situation right now, dude
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] because it involves me
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] And I don't want to do it
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] I don't want your external bravo drama coming here
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Be angry somewhere else
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] You can uninvolve yourself and I can just swap out, dude its fine.
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] instead of kicking down doors and targetting specific RPers
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] Mendoza and Mick aren't friends is what he's referencing here. I'm not here to do that, I'm not for killing people and targetting players on my drones.
    RevivalAD killed Alex using trp_m1014_shorty
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Stop using your fucking drone as an excuse to search the metro
    Pfc. Canaan Garland: [OOC] why would revivalAD do this
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] I'm genuinly here for the roleplay. Me coming down here never means that I'm going to absolutely kill you. If you hide, you hide and get the experience of a drone through the subway. If you engage, you engage. It's roleplay, collaborative storytelling.
    Pfc. Alexa Price: [OOC] cuz he was BLACK
    'Lucky' Larry: [OOC] This Is So Sad. Can We Get 100 Friendly Ratings?
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] I literally had no idea Murphy was here if that's what you're implying.
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] No, you're not, Drew. I don't want this RP with you, Murphy is now involved, who gets wrapped up into this, and I know what you're doing.
    Maria Mendoza: [OOC] do gay ratings count
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Because you did it on Mendoza.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] What will it take to settle the ishue?
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] And it's fucking garbage.
    [PM to Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn] Please dear God save me from this man.
    Garret Wychelm: [OOC] I'd vote they count for double.
    Maria Mendoza: [OOC] good
    [PM to Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn] He thinks I'm trying to target this entire faction out of spite because my other character doesn't like Mick.
    Xavier: [YELL] // fuck you
    Flt. LCpl. Atan Zahra: [LOCAL-OOC] Durruti, it kinda seemed like you prompted Drews 800 to come down here by shooting at it from inside
    Pfc. Alexa Price: [OOC] this shotgun is pretty intense, poor guy couldnt even rdm after unloading an entire clip and all it took me was 1 shot
    Xavier: [OOC] ill fuck ur mom
    Flt. LCpl. Atan Zahra: [LOCAL-OOC] his attack was authed by admins
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Drew, you can come to VC on discord and dsicuss this, I am fully willing to
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] It's fucking shit, though.
    Flt. LCpl. Atan Zahra: [LOCAL-OOC] no need to take it to vc
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] This is no shit Meta-tier bullshit.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Well.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Look.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] You guys are going to have to meet eachother half-way.
    Alex killed cellex using trp_aks_pso
    Rob killed Alex using trp_m249
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Can you both man up and shake hands?
    Player Alex left the game (Disconnect by user.)
    Cpl. Jordan Crosier: [OOC] ignore the shots
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [OOC] Will do, Rob.
    Pvt. Devin Rich: [OOC] just a minge
    Pfc. Francys Culpo: [OOC] goddamnit
    Pvt. Richard Carter: [OOC] OOF
    Pfc. Canaan Garland: [OOC] rob cowman abusing his admin? unheard of
    Cpl. Jordan Crosier: [OOC] i don't have admin here for better or for worse
    Mariano Fortes: [OOC] i was about to say... rob isn't an admin...
    Pfc. Francys Culpo: [OOC] fuk rob
    Pfc. Canaan Garland: [OOC] i know, or else he'd be spamming headcrab canisters
    Maria Mendoza: [OOC] amen
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] You can't come to me, this is an issue between you guys.
    Cpl. Jordan Crosier: [OOC] id re-enlist as a 13b instead of an 11b
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] I've been trying to compromise. I've tried to say that the drone is here to search, as drones do. If everyone hides, no one gets hurt. That's actually how it works. I'm not taking Mendoza's dislike for something as a drone's dislike, Durruti. It's just how the roleplay panned out on this character in this moment. When I logged onto the slot I said "eh, I'll patrol a bit", I didn't intend to get into a gunfight that'd lead us here.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] Sorry for the long message.
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] I'm just going to be real with you Drew, I *don't* trust you enough to believe that.
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] I really don't.
    T-800.6842 (DREWERTH): [TO ADMINS] If he doesn't trust me I really don't know what else to say. If you think I'm trying to be malicious just say it and I'll leave/go back to patrols but I don't think he intends to work this out any other way.
    Phoebe: [OOC] i like roleplaying in this setting
    Pfc. Canaan Garland: [OOC] nibbas whomst'd've partake in the action sequence in the rp scenarios known as shoot to kill are of exceedingly high iq
    'Scav': [OOC] [ADVERTISEMENT] Raid on Bp, stealen your books. Oh wait I did.
    Pvt. Devin Rich: [OOC] op
    T-800.6842 (DREWERTH): [TO ADMINS] I can't really find a way to convince him any other way, this is just how the night went.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [OOC] Permabanned STEAM_0:1:213643816 (death matching - please check in at the forums before coming back on the server!)
    Pvt. Devin Rich: [OOC] sector clear
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] The question is, what now?
    Mariano Fortes: [OOC] i luv scumbo
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] I want this drone to leave, continue his RP somewhere else, because I personally do not trust Drew to do this RP without actual bias.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [OOC] She wrote that, not me.
    Mick: Simply put.
    Mariano Fortes: [OOC] i still luv scumbo
    Mick: [LOCAL-OOC] Simply put* Sorry.
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] Well.... If Durr here dosn't want to do this, we can spin the clock back a bit. to the door geting kicked. Murphys in the chair, and go from there ?..
    Player Desrat456 left the game (Disconnect by user.)
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] Least theres some RP..
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [OOC] Did you get your gun back?
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] At this point I'm simply leaving it to the administration because I've tried to reason my drones perception for being in this location. If I can't convince people, I simply don't. If the admins say go as we are now, we do. If they say your offer, then it's your offer. If they think I'm here maliciously, I'll walk out right now and go patrol.
    Phoebe: [OOC] what's a plt
    Tagging location rp_tnb_futurewar_night
    'Lucky' Larry: [OOC] pacon lettuce tomato
    kiwee suicided!
    'Lucky' Larry: [OOC] wait
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] I want this to continue but I know it will be fruitless if the participants don't share their interest
    Phoebe: [OOC] i ahte u
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] OK
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] I share the interest. Even if we continue and you both side, you just get the experience of this drone snooping around and doing minor damage without hurting anyone.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Next time a drone has a reason to come down here
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Do not scream bias.
    The encounter he claims I'm using bias to overthrow him and kill his faction, or something.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] Hello where am I now.
    Player A Blaze of Glory left the game (Disconnect by user.)
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Hey Drew.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] Y'ello.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Not your fault Durr is unreasonable.
    Plt. 'Dentist' MacGobhainn: [LOCAL-OOC] Don't sweat it.

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    He's rather angry at me and really wants to nail down on me. I haven't spoken a word to him or against him but he's intent on being highly pissed off at me.

    Conclusion:
    Pretty cut and simple if you read the logs. Scumbo retracted her authorization because she predicted that he'd just bitch and moan about it and refuse to take it in-character. I don't like that at all and really seek to see that a more solid perspective is put in place on this. I'd rather redo, or perhaps get to do, the actual roleplay as it played out. He walked up to me and emoted merely walking up to a T-800 to test if I'd roleplay. That's pretty pathetic.

    It's why I seek either reauthorization to do the actual roleplay or that he take a break fro roleplay because he can't get an issue between two other characters out of his head to let something happen. If the admins truly believe that my sole intent is to be malicious on my T-800 which, I can only claim to not be because I have no real proof outside of today's events, I'll accept a demotion back to T-700 if I cannot be trusted.

    ; Edit: to further the point that if he hid I'd do nothing to him.
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  2. jules

    jules Saver of TnB

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    i think i got more upset at the " do you have auths? " " you need auths to be here " than anything in the ban request.

    it's 2AM for me, and late for everyone else probably. meaning you probably should have not done this so late into the night. there is no population on, and there's nobody there to accurately represent the amount of people that would have been there in the start. that being said, it probably would have better if you didn't enter the subway and let the retard have his 45 seconds of fun for that night. because for everyone else, a T-800 entering the subway at 2AM wanting to S2RP would raise a flag for me and i'd probably tell you to fuck off.

    on the other side of the fence. from the logs that have been provided, the admin team is well aware of durruti constantly complaining to get his way ( from the logs you posted ) and if this is the case then this should have been dealt with a long time ago. and if he's accomplishing this because the admin team would rather not deal with him then that's another problem. because if he is doing this, he realizes that he can do just about anything because all he has to do is get in their chest. ( i hope this is not the case. )

    if you want a ban to go through, maybe you should post some other stuff about him doing this. because from what you have right now, its simply not enough for a ban in my opinion.

    another thing, the coalition is a pretty fresh pbg so giving them some leeway is preferred. if the person who was leading you around on a goose chase keeps on doing it a quick pm to the leader/whoever was in charge at the time would have helped as they would have straightened it out with them and we would have avoided this entire to begin with.
     
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  3. Drewerth

    Drewerth nothing stops MY roleplay

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    There were around 25 players on which is more than acceptable. We've seen raids at bases with less on.

    I feel as though I acted apprioriately by going alone, so even if people wanted to combat me there'd be no chance of them being overrun.

    According to prior encounters I've had OOC, they are a leader if not a 2IC as some as defined it.

    Regardless of being a new PBG, who cares? The minutes the group is created they're an IC entity and are fully responsible fot what their members do. Admins even play characters with Coalition ties, I think they're well off.
     
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  4. Rabid

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    I think you're underestimating how deadly an 800 is in S2RP unless you idiot-balled yourself for their sake. Literally nothing except .50 cal, massed LMG fire, explosives (depends) and plasma can reliably damage one at all. Everything else they just wade through with varying degrees of annoyance.

    The Coalition has nothing that could scratch your paint, especially with so few. If someone was unlucky enough to shoot you, you'd have killed everyone in the metro unless you took it easy.

    I don't condone the attitude but there's probably only a few places they could have hidden and I figure the worry was you wouldn't stop searching until you found someone.
     
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    I smell something real fishy here, just by looking at homie's profile.
     
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    detective kash and i took some time to investigate this durriti fella a little more.

    3 steam games, gmod 800 hours and all of his friends are from tnb. all of his screenshots are from tnb. 252 hours counted for the past two weeks, so that means hes farming hours.

    has a tendency to get drunk and hop on server and cause problems. very get in your face attitude when it comes to steam message, aka spamming you constantly.

    you somehow knew about drewerth leading a squad but its been a while since hes done this. so, you have def been around long enough to know about that. you tripped up when you said it, you backtracked and quickly mentioned about reading it in the quotes thread. however you would literally have had to go through 100-200 pages of logs to see that.

    so it leads me to something.......something ripe, yes, yes. i smell it, i smell it in the air and its so smelly that i can almost lick it.

    i looked at your steam friends and i analyzed, my eye scanned everyone but one particular person caught my eye...................clarkie rubbs.

    now, you joined late uprising and it is a well known fact due to clarkie having no internet and heavy irl responsibilities he was never on. but allegedly you are good friends with him.

    who is good friends with clarkie? well my good friend Rob Graves.

    now you could say, " but jules, it cant be! he posted himself on the picwhore thread "

    i will point you all to his other alt that got banned, fugatoid. where he impersonated his syrian coworker and posted pictures of him pretending to be him and even learned some syrian as well. so this is not out of reach, infact. this is just like him.


    you thought you could hide from me, robgraves. even after all of these years you still are an alcoholic and i know your ways.


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    you cannot hide from me rob graves. that vpn will not hide your personality. your ca compliant magazines will not work on me robgraves. the gig is up, apply for a ban appeal at https://www.taconbanana.com/
     
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    yea he striked me as robgraves when I pbanned him from rr and had to deal with him on discord
    it depends on trp admins whether they will treat him with carte blanche or just ban this sycophant
    regardless, let’s wait with the ban before he actually posts a defense so everyone will be acquainted with his defense mechanisms
     
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    This nigga has been told 1000 times to not get on server drunk and has already had his main account and two alts banned

    When will he get the fuckin message that he needs help jesus
     
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    Tbh i think this is a big man b issue more than it is a trp team-specific issue since bennet has been the one laying down the hammer these last few times. Maybe im wrong tho
     
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    Goddamn the lil fella named Jules really do be on his case too because a man under the pseudonym Durruti has spoken a lot about the food in Portland despite his forum claiming he be out in SoCal.

    Robert Graves has been on it again, but I’m simply surprised that he decided to keep it a secret again.

    The ‘Sub-Community Permaban Rule’ basically grants niggas amnesty for a return to a new server, and this has been his only real offense on TRP. If anything his behavior over the past few months has been mostly spotless.
     
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    Yeah but this is the fatal flaw of excusing people using alts and why I don't agree with it.

    If you're creeping back into a community, of course you're not going to make waves and be on your best behavior. Thats how you hide. Nobody is gonna make an alt to sneak back in if they're serious and instantly go full-retard so their behavior on that alt shouldn't be admissable, imo.
     
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    I dont think that applies here because robgraves wasnt just banned from hl2 he was straight up removed from tnb by bennet for being toxic and unable to act reasonably when people didn't agree with him

    He also has a bad habit of getting on server drunk and causing horrid shitfests that no one likes. Rob can be an alright dude but thats not usually the case and I think if he doesn't have the frame of mind to think about posting an unban appeal then he shouldn't be able to just skirt around on alts.
     
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    i don't support the amnesty post.

    every time someone is caught on an alt its because they just did the same thing again. if someone wanted to sneak back on server and not be noticed they could easily do it but no, they just fall back into old behaviour after every so often.

    im waitin for complete confirmation this is graves but if it is, im supportin a ban.

    as for the situation itself, there was more than enough people on - i was lingering on the server myself. the encounter with the 800 also came within about 30 minutes of open warfare against mox's 600 & zero's bot. (dunno if it was a 700 or if he played an FK for the time.)

    it was warranted if he was shot at for him to go investigate; regardless of place. if it as bp id have thought it'd be okay too.
     
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    I generally dislike the amnesty - if you got banned then at least have the gall to apologize instead of sneaking back in without an apology.
     
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    I think Scumbo's post was more geared towards situations where a person was banned from a single server.

    In Robgrave's circumstances I'm fairly certain he sits atop a fat community ban for his general behavior.
     
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    I feel like my response is warranted in this shitfest of a ban request given I'm the lad who runs The Coalition and Metro area.

    To start off with, Drewerth, I'll admit it'' rich you making a ban request over this. As a former admin you should be aware of how matters should be handled in regards to bots and the like. The fact that you thought a 800 going into a Metro where a freshly made PBG and scavv population was established just screams play 2 win mentality for me.

    Furthermore it's suspicious that you seem to have used this as an excuse to look for Murphy. We've already had issues with you and other memyers in TC trying to locate Murphy after ooc knowledge that The Coalition has him came to light. You even said in the vc to Durruti and a few others that you'd get your way into Murphys room after Durrutis char stopped you and moos blatant attempts too metagame and gain access inside.

    The fact that you could have dropped me a pm instead of starting this shitfest just proves your looking to start trouble. I feel like this is due to your recent ooc attitude in TRP in general after loosing out on that Bravo Lt position to Ohyeah. I've been told numerous times by Bravo folk oocly on just how toxic you'be been lately because of that, so it makes me wonder if this had bled into situations like this?

    In a sense I can see why Durruti acted the way he did. We've had numerous issues with bots camping right outside Metro or performing unauthorised attacks. My gripe with this is that it detracts people from The Metro and harms the PBG scene. Fair enough, upon being created we are subject to IC consequences, but be real Drewerth. Where in your mind did you think it was reasonable to march an 800 into the metro during hours where there were few people on? Yes 25 people were on at the time but we'e 25 people in the metro? That's the point here. That's just a veiled excuse to try justify your actions.

    If your going to try make a ban request from this, I could just as well set up one for your blatant attempts at metagaming. It works both ways.

    As for Durruti being Rob Greaves, I'll be quiet honest I've had no idea about it, or recollection of who Rob is. Durruti for the most part has been an outstanding and helpful individual and has most of the time behaved. Only issue I've had with him is coming onto the server drunk etc. I'd suggest letting Bennet decide what to do in these regards.

    All I'm trying to do Is run a PBG and try bring more interesting rp to the server. To be quite frank I can't be arsed with any drama but Drewerth apparently deemed it fit to make a mound out of a mole hill on this one.
     
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    Honestly though, if Rob did his usual drunk retard shit (unbeknownst to Dreweth) as a member of your group and openly lured him into the Metro is that not grounds? It wasn't unwarrented when 'Durriti' shot him from the enterance after an on-and-off engagement he started and ran inside banking on the OOC security.

    This reads more as you trying to paint motives than him having any. If he'd have wanted to kill anyone he'd have gone in shooting, not looked around and told someone to Rp hiding.
     
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    Ill admit I haven't had the chance to speak to Durruti about the whole thing. If he was drunk and did it purposely then it's his fault for being an idiot. I'm just pointing out Durriti might not be the only one at fault for it
     
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    Coming right up bby brb writing up that sweet ban request. Although legit in your case I think you were just being retarded with drewerth at the time. Drew seems to be stretching it further though so don' get too angsty friendo
     
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    Can't say I bite what you're casting here. I feel you're playing a victim card for your PBG a bit too much, and thus concluding to the idea that Drewerth is attempting to disenfranchise the lot of you through an intention he does not have.

    Durruti's (Or RobGraves') character took actions that endangered themselves in a way I'd go as far as to say were negligent of the dangers the situation at hand possessed.
     
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    What I'm saying is though, this shit isn't uncommon for Rob to do - in fact this is what he gets caught out doing. Rob gets drunk and does utterly stupid shit while seeming entirely cognicent and in control even when he's wasted (except when he snaps like he did). This was very likely the case last night.

    There's no real way you can 'accidently' shoot at a 'bot you've baited for a while right outside your base and run inside.

    Like if Dreweth wanted to get to Murphy couldn't he just have shot him and not let him RP hiding? Or busted into the cell and took him?
     
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    You make valid points. I just cba with the shit recently. As I said we've had multiple metagaming attempts, mainly around the Murphy situation. Alongside that we've had issues with drones camping and all that good stuff.

    The fact that Durruti has yet to comment is what's holding this all back. I figured I'd at least comment on behalf of the group, so our stance was at least clear in conjuction with the rest of the situation
     
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    I mean his voice did sound familiar in discord... I wouldn’t be surprised if it were rob. Also, ease off the shit posting and the one liners. If you don’t have anything legitimate to post. Please don’t, thanks guys.
     
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    My point stands from the logs. People do stupid shit, they get fucked. This isn't a situation of a minge leadijg a drone back, but someone capable of roleplay to a degree.

    So I don't know your mentallity of the beast here but mine is that opwn negligence should be handled strongly. People are scared of the unknown on this server and it kills the attitude.

    Was never an admin at TnB.

    Never have I once joined a Murphy search party.

    @The Red Menace @Detective Zero can confirm I wasn't even in the VC last night. Also read my lohs, I went into Murphy's room and he walked in and said he was there IC. I literally said he'd have probbaly heard me being there so he could've just hid and it'd all be gucci.

    I have clarified multiple times that if I was offered Lieutentant I'd have forwarded the proposition to Legit Muffin because he wrote our squad policy.

    Yes, as do several admins it seems. I'll be frank, if 5 people were on (1 800, 1 admin, 3 players) and the situation happened I'd still request authorization to head down because the playercount is not an IC bar on stupidity.

    Maybe if he didn't make a mound out of a robot with a player not out for blood looking through the Metro.

    This is what I tried to comvey through the LOOC. I went in knowing he could be the only one there but if he hides then he hides.

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    I don't take pleasure in capturing or killing because not much comes out of it and TC rescue parties happen too often, I'm glad they've died down a little. Unless you tried to slap me with a pipe a la Kyle Reese T1 there's a 90% chance I'd leave you be or give you a minor booboo for some RP.

    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] what
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] oh, youre in here IC?
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] Yah...
    Murphy: [LOCAL-OOC] No where really too hide....
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] just do your emotes and whatnot. im not here on a manhunt
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] If you'd like to hide, be my guest as youd hear me rummaging through other rooms. If you'd like to be captured, it's up to you.
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] i dont think you can get under it oocly
    T-800.6842: [LOCAL-OOC] just emote it and youll be fine

    The logs clarify that one best. He walked into the room after I broke a locked door down and physgun sat down.

    Hell, I was super confused at first.

    I'm not actually malicious and I certainly don't take the options of Mendoza or Kapuliek onto my drone. That's a scummy thing to do.
     
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    pls add these to ur ban request:

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    @Drewerth Oh my point was that it's a whole different beast to march an 800 into a group vs a 700 or a Sixer. I wasn't saying you did anything wrong so much as "I can understand why they'd be concerned given it'd be a massacre".

    That being said now I know it's Rob he was probably drunk as fuck and did his usual.
     
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    Oh yeah, I know they're fucking beasts but I'd still use my better judgement about what's appropriate in combat. I expect people to act their part as well and understand the dangers of what they're fighting against.
     
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    May I remind you that whilst the preceding statement offers the possibility of a 2nd chance it is not to be taken in a literal way. There are those, regrettably, who aren't worthy of such an opportunity. We tend to deal with these matters on a case by case basis as has been the way since the beginning of the current TRP.

    Now onto one of the other issues presented by this topic.

    Whilst authorisations are required for Drones to attack Baseplate or an established Playerbased Group 'Safe Haven' there are times when the obligation for authorisation may be waivered.

    One of these occasions is if someone who is deemed semi-competent, chooses to engage a passing patrol, no matter the series, and then chooses to quickly bolt into the protected base expecting to be untouchable due to the restrictions placed on Drones. It is times like these that you can't surely expect a Drone to just sit there and give you the 1,000-yard stare. This is one of those situations, so even with or without authorisation Dreweth hasn't done anything wrong from a Drone sense.

    If you take the knowing risk to knowingly engage a Drone in the open and then allow it to follow you back to somewhere considered a 'protected place' then you can't attempt to cower behind authorisations if they then enter such place, especially when you are given several opportunities to hide as they conduct a search.

    It is only when someone who is not as competent or those newer folk begin to pot shot and attempt to lure Drones to BP or a 'Safe Haven' where you then are required to gather authorisation to begin an assault. This is merely to prevent a shitstorm ensuing in /a or //


    Onto another issue. Durruti potentially being RobGraves.

    Unfortunately, I don't have the privilege to personally know who they are, nor have I experienced their pros or cons primarily because I was on a hiatus from TnB for several years due to work commitments and other life choices. Regardless, reading through this thread I can see via people's opinions and perspectives that it's clear to see that RG isn't held in the highest regard. I feel it's best we at least give Durruti the opportunity to reply to this thread before a final judgement is passed, especially seen as he's not read this thread yet.
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    Finally, can we keep the CCC's and the Ban Country to at least a more than a sub-par standard of response. Please refrain from the continued shit-post and potentially worthless '+1' or shit banter as they'll be swiftly deleted.
     
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    don't shoot the messenger ye

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    "I'm just having Skyrim post this because I'm out and about, but like I've said, I don't hate Drew. I felt really disrespected by his recent attitude about Bravo OOCly, which is a driving factor in why I stopped playing my TC despite the fact that it was rumored that I was going to be made an NCO. I did try and put a lot of effort into making MG certs fun, getting people involved, that sort of thing, but there's just been a serious stagnance that's been happening reently with TC's where it simply isn't fun for me anymore, and I find myself much more intrigued by exploring my options as Mick on my Coalition char. But, everything I say there, I basically mean - I reached a tipping point with Drew last night purely because of the situation (Which I am in the wrong for, I was straight up minging, sprinting around, and totally not focused on RP, mingeshot at the guy and ran and went AFK to go grab some food in the metro. Tbh, I didn't know it was Drew, I thought it was some random drone, at least not an 8. had I known that I would've no-shit taken the time to actually RP it out. Most of my distractions that lead to stupid situations are probably traceable back to the sheer amount of time I spend on mic, getting fully distracted from the actual RP to have chats with people that I enjoy speaking with - but it's quite obvious that I need to break from that from however long is needed, since I personally don't want to sow any discord are cause any issues. I don't know if I'll play as a TC or whatever in the future, but I think for right now since I'm sorta busy with IRL shit, I'mma use that as an excuse to break from RP. Now, as far as the aaccusations of me being an alt, I legitimately never knew the guy you're all talking about save for some off the wall stories I was told over VC (which doesn't surprise me given the other crazy shit that has been orated to me as having gone down here)."

    "Really the only thing I was able to do was to post a time and name-stamped picture of my rifle, since it's really the only unique identifying photograph I've ever sharedwith the community, but I shared that with Jules. Other than that, there's really no other way for me to try and say that I'm not some ooc infiltrator or whatever (lmao) other than just existing here. I'm really sensitive to stress and drama when i feel fairly ostracized, so I'm just gonna leave it at this and go about my business. Final apologies to Drew and to anyone that had to deal with my frustrated ass."

    honestly he's not a bad guy from what i've seen and this is the first stink he's been involved in, so far. from what I heard in VC last night it also sounded like the guy very genuinely thought Drewerth was fucking with him on an OOC level by going through with the RP in the metro, so I doubt any of this was an attempt to scum his way out of something unfavorable for his character - if anything, it was him trying to argue his away out of something he OOCly viewed as unfair. it's very common for people to get emotional over something that happens in RP

    i don't know if it's rob graves or not but honestly he's not causing any problems and it seems like people are saying "fuck you" just to say "fuck you". if he isn't doing anything malicious and can prove he's able to play the server like everyone else there shouldn't be an issue - since permabanned players *are* meant to get a second chance with this server. if he goes back to doing everything he used to do, send him to the appeal section

    @Abaddon bless us with the end of this thread plz
     
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    i meant this is the first stink he's been involved in on this account or whatever bro......

    from what i've seen he's been fine on trp, and honestly he didn't do anything *bad* in this situation either
     
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    This is kinda why, as I said above, using alts as a clean slate or a chance to prove good behavior is a poor decision.

    Like nobody is gonna sneak back into the community and not be on their best behavior if they're gonna hide, y'know? To me it doesn't show change it just shows that he's good at pretending to be someone else and flying under the radar by pretending to be a normal player.
     
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    i'm not denying that and i'm not saying he didn't deserve those bans, because for what it's worth he DID have a problem. what i'm saying is that now he's actually been alright and he was fine on fugitoid for a decent amount of time as well

    as long as he doesn't start drinking the guy will be fine, but ofc i could be wrong

    @Rabid yeah, it's a piss-poor decision i agree - i think he just wants to prove he can be proper. from what i understand he's making an effort to disassociate himself from 'robgraves'

    he's making a post rn i think
     
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    I think while the drinking may be a catalyst to a great deal of his problems at TnB it is by no means the sole reason as to why he is banned.
     
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    He started fucking up, though. And knowing how it always goes, he's not going to stop.
     
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    I think the problem is mostly how he conducts himself tbh. He realizes he's fucked his reputation far too many times (eight to be exact) and after his last account was caught he went off on a spiral about how "when I want TnB I get it" and "I'll just keep making alts".

    To me it isn't a matter of him wanting to change so much as being pushed down a path because he can only keep digging his hole deeper. There's a point where I think you kinda have to shrug and accept that after eight appeals and three accounts that all went under for the same behavior that some people can't change.

    Rob gives genuinely good Rp for a while, then he declines into chaos because he starts drinking and coming on server and reminding people why the honeymoon period never lasts.
     
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    don't let this situation reflect poorly on those who are trying to create rp outside of tech comm and baseplate

    on the matter at hand, though - we can treat the accusations of being an alt seperately from the roleplay avoidance scenario - arguing them both in one place is a hot mess

    durruti did have some claim to the illegitimacy of the raid cuz there was no one home oocly to defend other than mick and murphy, but they did not properly state that as their reason for refusing to participate
    the 'ic guards' rule's hadn't been renewed on trp yet because this is actually the first instance where we would have needed that rule to protect the situation

    REGARDLESS of ic guards, mick/durruti acted negligiently by attacking a terminator and leading it to their base
    it was crummy of them (durruti) to bring things ooc and start a confrontation over something that could have been negotiated in looc, and more so to use the Raid Auths as a shield, but i can kind of understand why they protested given there was no one to back them up - taking me back to my first point

    durruti/mick's actions ended up having consequences. i don't believe this scenario warrants a ban, so much as we be more mindful of situations like this in the future, HOWEVER, durruti is not off the hook for any investigation of them being an alt

    i hate talking like a lawyer
     
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    Right, so I’ll just come out and say it, since there’s no point in hiding it, and I’ve come out and said it to a few now, but yeah, I am RobGraves.

    And the reason for this is not because I wanted to ban-evade to be malicious, to be sneaky, to even try and trick anyone.

    Largely, what I’ve been trying to do, is dis-associate myself with Rob Graves as a person. Completely, wholly. I’ve gone so far as to almost completely abandon my original steam account, remove myself from friend-circles (save for TNB) that I’ve been a part of, and try to assume new names, new identities, and make new friends in different communities.

    So, when I say that I’ve done this iteration of lying and being evasive not to hurt anyone, but to get back in touch with me trying to prove that I’m not trying to repeat over, and over, and over again the mistakes that I’ve made in the past.

    Yes, I have a drug abuse problem. Nowadays it’s moved slightly further away from being a drunk, and more or less weed and pills, because I was removed from the Army due to a pretty serious injury that has almost all of my lower body in severe pain. Nerve damage, and a serious infection in my foot that’s essentially. Besides this.

    Considering all my dirty laundry’s been aired out in front of this community time and time before, I don’t really feel so uncomfortable overhsaring bits and pieces of my life with any of y’all anymore, because I do honestly trust (most) of you, and I don’t hate a single person in this community. It’s been quite some time since I RP’d, and a while since I came back as Durruti.

    I went so far as to up and abandon basically everything I had in MA, everything in KS, move out to Washington state, and start my entire life over, with a new group of friends, and a new culture of people that have basically taken me in, and are understanding of where I come from – and I believe that that’s one of the major reasons I haven’t really been bad, so to speak.

    I’ve largely become completely and totally separated from the “Tough-guy Army brazen “merkan warrior” type of shit that I spent so long basically trapped inside, which gave me a very toxic, rough, edgy, and quick to anger mentality. Moving out here to Portland and far more progressive areas, I’ve gotten support from a lot of people that I never figured I’d ever find myself around.

    Do I expect this to really change anything? Not necessarily. I miss y’all, and I have a lot of love for everyone in this community, since it’s a great way to get to know people from all around. But, I’m aware that there are tons of people here that I probably have a lot of love for, that really hate my guts. I’m trying my hardest to distance myself from my past. Sometimes, little bits of it poke up through, and I have to take a concious stance and remind myself to not let the be me, and not let that shit happen again, because honestly, the last few years for me have been hard-up to the degree where I can’t even remember most people who remember me. There are entire chunks of my memory that are missing because of my lack of self-control, something that I’ve been struggling with my entire life.

    Now, this isn’t meant to be a sob-story, but I think certain situations do deserve context. There’s really not so much anything else that I can do to explain the situation that I feel that I am in, and there’s obviously no way to “reverse” the assholish behavior I’ve cast onto other people years and years ago. I don’t like being sneaky and evasive like this. I don’t want to be seen as a liar. People don’t deserve to build trust in an individual like me, only to have it completely and entirely shit on when word gets out that I am who I am. But, I feel there’s absolutely no other way, other than taking a shot in the dark here, and trying to explain myself, self-critique, and public apologies, to try and “show” that I legitimately want, and really, honestly need to leave the Rob Graves egotistical bullshit somewhere far, far away. I do, but the last two instances of this, I’ve felt that I’ve had no way to do this, no way to show this, besides assuming different identities. Rob Graves is some child shit that needs to be left behind, I’m more than old enough to be responsible for my own actions, but I don’t physically know or understand how to try and prove to this community member that I am making a solid attempt to leave all of this shit behind, without going about it in a way that, well, isn’t exactly Orthodox.

    Tl;dr, at this rate I’ve become completely aware that I don’t want to be “Rob Graves” or seen as the “Rob Graves” that I was 3-5 years ago. I don’t know how else to prove that I can leave that shit far behind me, other than, well, assuming a new identity. This time, I more or less immediately came back to the Discords to speak with my old friends, because I knew eventually that this would come to light – and I just wanted to meet with people, meet new people, make new friends, because even if I made friends with people that hated me, maybe that’s good for me. To clear the air. Remaining friends with my old friends, also good. And making new friends that maybe never knew me as RobGraves, also good.

    I’m just sorry I had to be evasive and a sneak in order to do it.
     
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