Serious Star Wars

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I would like to poll the community regarding its interest in a serious, gritty Star Wars roleplay.

There have been a few attempts at this but all of them were more or less retarded on account of being run by people who were banished from TnB for one reason or another.

With the Mandalorian out and so far demonstrating that Star Wars doesn't have to be shit (no thanks to JJ Abrams) I thought there might be some interest in toying with a roleplay set in the immediate post-Emperor era.

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For those unfamiliar with Star Wars' old expanded universe, the destruction of the second Death Star did not, of course, lead to the instant capitulation of the Empire. But there was no clear line of succession, so its many Moffs and Admirals quarreled over who got to be the head honcho next - leading to a shattered Empire. Many units surrendered and transferred to the New Republic but many more carried on in Imperial service, swearing fealty to their immediate superiors and so on. This led to many hundreds of minor factions which eventually arranged into thirteen major factions controlled by various warlords, which after several years were more or less united back under one single banner after a campaign by an Imperial admiral.

I would like to explore this time period with an occupation-type roleplay set on one of the thirteen warlords' worlds, in the midst of the Imperial Remnant reunification campaign and the New Republic's efforts to defeat the remaining Imperial forces. There are a lot of pros and cons to look at here - I saw most of these points in action on an attempted SWRP I checked out. It didn't last long but that was more due to OOC drama than anything (their developer went rogue).

Pros:
  • Serious take on a popular semi-serious roleplay guarantees a steady throughput of random joiners.
  • Let's face it, Star Wars is going to be popular.
  • The Remnant-era setting lets us play with the grey area between the old lore and the new lore.
  • The setting is familiar to players who don't like to read a lot (visually and mechanically similar to the OT) with lots of deeper lore to explore for players who do.
  • Star Wars is a wide open setting with a lot of well defined material to work with - like a lot. There's a role for everyone and probably an associated wiki page for anything you could possibly want to do.
  • Lots of Star Wars content is already done and ready to go.
  • The occupation setting is mechanically similar to HL2RP, giving us the cops and robbers dynamic we like - but it doesn't exclude citizens from the reindeer games. In fact, most characters on this server can be non-affiliated, because there's still plenty for 'citizens' to do.
  • Unlimited pool to draw from for events, which can be all-inclusive.
  • SCI FI holy fu
  • Own space ships.
  • imperial army plsplsplsplspsl
Cons:
  • Random joiners are probably going to be retards.
  • It can be difficult to get people to take Star Wars seriously.
  • Everyone wants to play a Jedi or a bounty hunter despite the wealth of other options available.
  • The breadth of the setting can be daunting - with so many options it can be difficult to come up with a character.
  • Visual representation for characters is difficult without PAC, and PAC is kind of always a terrible idea.
  • Fairly reliant on janky scripts for things like vehicles.
  • Map choice leaves a lot to be desired, but that can be designed around.
  • Available content is wildly inconsistent in terms of quality.
  • Does not lend itself well to a random roleplay (would be better as a long term setting).
  • The Imperial authority structure is not really that well understood by most people which leads to some goofy shit when it comes to portraying Stormtroopers etc. Might require too much explanation.
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Overall I think the best way to do this would be sort of an old-school HL2 server structure: one main, city-based 'hub' server where the day to day operations occur, plus a flexible event server where events, often offworld, can be handled on a task by task basis. The aforementioned server also did a lot of its offworld events in a text-based format on Discord, which was cool and very flexible, but required a sharp GM to work.

Also: NO JEDI. NO LIGHTSABERS.

I don't want to mess with an Old Republic setting because I think it requires far too much explanation - it's a huge leap from the familiar Star Wars setting (most people with access to computers have seen A New Hope, not nearly as many have played KOTOR) - and while it's interesting and unique, I think the fixation with it kind of forgets how much the original trilogy era offers in terms of the grit and grime that our style generally thrives on.

Yall put me in check if I'm wrong here but I think this is worth thinkin about.

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Polioman doesn't exist within the same plane of existence as we do on most days.
 
the city could be the most wretched lair of criminals in the universe, mos eisley

the imperial garrison could act as both the policing force as well as the 'overwatch' by being deployed in the 'outlands' while a well organized resistance movement is out there

when it comes to the imperial rank structure it isnt very complicated itd be basic ranks, they used plaques for officers which shouldnt be many variants while stormtroopers had those shoulder boards, so really stormtrooper > stormtrooper sgt and so on

anyway, there could be a lot of character concepts about, stormtroopers could be any type of human or maybe even alien, as well as clone remnants, they arent exactly high quality troops but they arent cannon fodder either

there is a lot of lore to use which could make things very sci-fi and easy to be creative

the jedi were mostly wiped out so it wouldnt really make sense for people to rp a jedi, plus the empire is actively hunting them and bounty hunters usually have bounties on themselves so its not too wise to be about in a imperial city
 
the city could be the most wretched lair of criminals in the universe, mos eisley

the imperial garrison could act as both the policing force as well as the 'overwatch' by being deployed in the 'outlands' while a well organized resistance movement is out there

when it comes to the imperial rank structure it isnt very complicated itd be basic ranks, they used plaques for officers which shouldnt be many variants while stormtroopers had those shoulder boards, so really stormtrooper > stormtrooper sgt and so on

anyway, there could be a lot of character concepts about, stormtroopers could be any type of human or maybe even alien, as well as clone remnants

there is a lot of lore to use which could make things very sci-fi and easy to be creative

the jedi were mostly wiped out so it wouldnt really make sense for people to rp a jedi, plus the empire is actively hunting them and bounty hunters usually have bounties on themselves so its not too wise to be about in a imperial city
Not sure bout using Mos Eisley as Tatooine kind of sucks as a planet. Would like to have something with more interesting locales, this being Star Wars we can just invent our own planet even.

The Remnant was where non-human aliens started being permitted into the Stormtrooper corps so there's material there to work with. There'd be no clone remnants at this point (pretty sure they'd all be dead before Yavin even).
 
Just get an environment that has suitable maps and works well within the RP structure (cops, robbers, citizens)
 
Not sure bout using Mos Eisley as Tatooine kind of sucks as a planet. Would like to have something with more interesting locales, this being Star Wars we can just invent our own planet even.

The Remnant was where non-human aliens started being permitted into the Stormtrooper corps so there's material there to work with. There'd be no clone remnants at this point (pretty sure they'd all be dead before Yavin even).
Could always go with the setting on Kashyyyk during the imperial ocupation or at least open up with the invasion of it.
 
I’d love for this to work, but I think we all known where this would go in a short amount of time. I’ll say i’d love to see someone give it a try and not have it be a copy and paste HL2 RP. However, you’re gonna have to run this shit like a well oiled machine to keep the retards at bay. If you can do that, then maybe. I would certainly support the server if it came to fruition. Pretty sure I just repeated the already established cons, but oh well.


tl;dr My lack of faith is disturbing.
 
considering the aging process you're on point but according to some lore which i cant source right now there were some clones still about in the stormtrooper core because of some DNA malfunction which made them age slower, boba fett is a clone who was cloned in a way so he could age slower and it was a similair thing with some of the clones, otherwise most of the clone batches (what was left of them) probably already died of old age a few years after the battle of mustafar, which is cannon because swbf2 game had the 501st take part in that one

there was also a rebellion on kamino later on where a clone army was made to counter the empire and the empire might have or might have not used some leftover samples for their military so thats an excuse if anyone really wants to rp a clone without making him a clone wars veteran
 
I think the more important question is how to incorporate shotdroid into it.
 
as a super star wars nerd i love the idea, and can spitball a few setting ideas:

nar shaddaa - basically coruscant (the big city planet) that's controlled by the hutt cartel (it gets contested a lot)
bespin - cloud city from empire strikes back. in lore its a big gas refinery planet, lots of civilian opportunities
ord mantell - criminal/imperial contested world. very prone to getting fucked by war in lore
dantooine - agriculture world that's very prone to criminal activity
 
If this were a thing I think we'd much more enjoy the prospect of coming up with our own planet and allowing ourselves to have an open book with the worldbuilding.
 
If this were a thing I think we'd much more enjoy the prospect of coming up with our own planet and allowing ourselves to have an open book with the worldbuilding.
That was my thinking. Putting us under one of the undeveloped warlord characters during the Remnant era gives us a lot of space to develop our own setting but pre-defines all the important shit.
 

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