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Pvt. 'Red'

Discussion in 'Ban Requests' started by Drewerth, May 11, 2018.

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  1. Drewerth

    Drewerth nothing stops MY roleplay

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    OOC Name: Hart
    SteamID: idk
    Character Name: Pvt. 'Red'
    What happened: /me dies to avoid consequences.
    He basically went out of base alone and engaged in S2RP with a T-700 alone and by the time my support arrived he just does an emote about getting killed so he can avoid the proper punishment for engaging us alone outside of the base. Truthfully this should be a selfPK/negligentPK on his part and a Lieutenant advised I forward this here. He made no attempt to communicate with us so I can only assume his death is to avoid roleplay.

    NLRs are stupid.

    Time it happened: A few hours ago.
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    [L] (Pvt. 'Red') [EVENT] ** As the machine begins to approach the pillbox, a thunderous amount of fire is unloaded upon it. **
    T-700.6842: [OOC] ** Ammunition begins to slam against the machine but its march is only faltered in speed. It raises a plasma weapon and continues marching forward as bullets begin to tear into the armor.
    [SKYNET] T-700.6842: <:: CONTACT. SINGE TARGET. ENGAGING.
    [SKYNET] T-700.6085: <:: Affirmative.
    [SKYNET] T-700.6085: <:: Standing-by.
    Pvt. 'Red': [OOC] The fire is kept up, both of the triggers tightly clenched. The barrel of the emplacement begins to burn hot as lead is spat for the drone.
    [SKYNET] T-700.6842: RESPONSIVE LOCATION [TERMINAL HOTEL]. REQUESTING REINFORCEMENTS.
    [SKYNET] T-700.6085: <:: Affirmative.
    [SKYNET] T-700.6085: <:: Moving to assist.
    T-700.6842: [OOC] ** The drone continues forward, expelling bursts of concentrated plasma into the firing position of the lone soldier. A fatal bullet pieces the left arm of the drone, another severely damages the right leg.
    Pvt. 'Red': [OOC] The gunner is caught directly within the eye with a fatal stream of plasma, his brain becoming a literal jelly within his skull as he falls back; dead.
     
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  2. Kieck

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    This should go to the auth boards for being grade A negligence and suicide by bot.
     
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  3. Hart100

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    Hey man, I play Red.

    My character was sitting in the pillbox that's beside the Terminal hotel on the mounted MG and the bot and him had gotten into a scrape. Traded a few rounds, traded a little plasma, things were going swell without argument. My character's head is the only possible thing the drone could hit and he's decently close while putting serious plasma downrange, so I reckon it's only fair he'd hit me.

    I'd be more then happy to accept this thing myself and throw the character in the permanently dead bin, it's my pleasure to demonstrate that shit happens sometimes and the server's a dangerous place.

    But here's where I have a small disconnect with this thread: the implication that I'd somehow try to avoid consequences. That's not a fair label to put on me. I dedicate serious time towards building up the map, producing mini-events and trying to add to the server's atmosphere. I generally give no issue when my characters are injured or captured; I embrace it.

    Those two things aren't something to be feared, they're opportunities to expand your character's story and deepen the impact of making the wrong move and slipping up or sometimes rolling the dice and failing. After all, without failure there's no success.

    I know how it is to be a droid and I understand that we're constantly used as a plot element to try and inject fear and tension within an environment, but we are extremely watered down to the point of our drones coming off as crudely ineffective. I don't see why your droid couldn't win that engagement given the circumstances.

    Let me hammer out one more point before my reply is complete though.

    You see me building over in the trenchline and when you approached, I shot you a PM asking how you believed it looked. If I remember correctly you were saying it would probably get destroyed by SkyNet; offered me feedback. I made the conscious decision to stop building and roleplay with you, I took the loss. If you felt it was rushed or something of that accord you were more than welcome to contact me.

    What I'm trying to say is I contacted you a minute prior for your opinion on something, so I don't reckon it makes a load of sense I wouldn't consider how you feel about this situation. I'm an open book and I genuinely had no idea something felt off to you. I'm no mind reader homie, there's no possible way I could know how your feeling.

    Don't take this the wrong way but generally if something is bothering you or on your mind, you gotta speak up. It's on the other person if they consider it or not. Technically speaking the communication error would be on your part but I'm not looking to shift blame.

    E: ironically enough if I just s2ked and died there wouldn't be an issue
     
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  4. Jubbert

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    Never change, TnB. A place where you'd better roleplay that plasma fire being a hit to the shoulder of your [6'8'' | musculer | parents kill by machine] character, otherwise you might make someone mad enough to create a ban request on you.

    Also on a side note, this motherfucker was pretty much right outside baseplate when this happened, right as a big group of Tech-Com led by a captain, armed with plasma and large-caliber sniper rifles, and two exosuits, was leaving. If anything, Red was the one about to get reinforcements.

    In fact, right when all this shit went down, I had a little exchange with Hart via steam Friends:
    https://imgur.com/a/fi20CNk

    But yeah, fuck him for trying to give you a little bit of roleplay before he has to go do something productive. Ban the fucker.
     
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  5. Drewerth

    Drewerth nothing stops MY roleplay

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    For the record you send out a GOOC message, did you not? I remember saying that 'it looked wrong', which prompted your PM back when I was patrolling near the pool/construction sight. I was a body in the distance some many moments later and it turned out yo be you.

    What.

    When someone NLRs and DCs without much notice what am I supposed to expect? If I did that on my Sgt I'd be in a heap of shit from some people.
     
  6. Drewerth

    Drewerth nothing stops MY roleplay

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    Double posting.

    What.

    I hung around the area for a good few minutes trying to sort this out with other drones and didn't see any contact but that's beside the point.

    You can't use 'people were on the way' as a defense.
     
  7. BMY871

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    For clarity, this refers to Moris' group of I believe 8 that was briefing at the compound entrance when this happened. We left several minutes after.
    One exosuit anyway I'm pretty sure.
     
  8. Jubbert

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    People were on the way.
     
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  9. Drewerth

    Drewerth nothing stops MY roleplay

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    Were they on the way or about to move several minutes later? Regardless, it isn't pertinent to this topic.
     
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    We certainly weren't on that way, and we were inside of the walls when this happened. We were briefing for our own mission.
     
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  11. Jubbert

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    What's pertinent to this topic is that Hart was trying to roleplay, accomplished that task, then had to leave.

    There's zero reason for this ban appeal to exist. Quote the fucking rule he's broken. Oh, wait, there isn't one.

    If you want his character to take a PK for this death, there's a way to go about that without trying to get the player banned.

    Or, you know, you could have just contacted the guy and discussed it with him. But no, it's way more fun to create drama with a ban request, isn't it? Fuck yeah, it is.
     
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  12. Hart100

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    My man, what consequences would I try to skimp out on? We got into an engagement and I lost, I didn't Rambo over your way or into the city. I was holding a position directly outside the base in a fortified pillbox. I'm not really sure what type of outcome you're looking to see here?

    Do you want me banned?

    My character captured? Killed?

    Let's take steps towards rectifying the situation, I want to solve this problem with you.

    I'm sorry this happened, I genuinely am, and I hate to have made you feel insignificant or ignored; nobody deserves to feel like they're unimportant. But you can't lay this entirely at my feet, you didn't contact me or even try to add me on Steam, I can't simply assume there's an issue. I would have thought you'd be happy to have taken down someone who fired at you, all too often the drones end up in bits.

    I mean seriously, if I had simply went [OOC] s2k bot - and started to fire at you - there'd probably be little issue.
     
  13. BMY871

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    @Drewerth made the post thinking you wanted to avoid PK and you already said you're fine with PK so it seems to me like the issue is solved and Red gets a PK.
     
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    Why are we arguing, hart said he'll take a pk, it's a non issue at this point.
     
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  15. Jubbert

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    I'd like to formally apologize to Drewerth for overreacting a bit in my last couple posts. I didn't realize that

    meant that you were requesting a PK, not a ban, and thought that posting in the "Post in here to have someone banned from our gameservers or forums." section meant that you wanted the guy gone.
     
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    Please remember trying more than once (sometimes twice) is always a great way to avoid these types of things.

    Solved, and hopefully a lock soon.

    Speak about what you’re planning to do Hart, and we can settle this.
     
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  17. Hart100

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    Keep my word. The character's corpse will be found in the trenches when the population grows. I'll be laying his gear, save for the uniform, around his body.
     
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  18. Deadeye

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    Another one bites the dust.

    Locked.
     
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  19. Flower

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    Reminder: talk it out on the server amongst yourselves before taking it to the forums.

    Thanks guys, have a good day
     
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