Is TRP dying?!

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  1. Disorder

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    I think we reached that part where there's not that much activity anymore on TRP and we have to panic if it's going to die soon or not.
    We need to establish who's fault it is that caused this to happen, I don't want to give names (@Davebrown ).

    Joke aside I see that things are becoming boring / stale, maybe some of you can toss up some suggestions to try and improve things. I really like the server's theme and it'd be a shame to see it go down.
     
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    things became stale/boring in the first month of the server rofl. while i had high hopes for trp, i realized how stupid the theme is for a longlasting roleplay schema. you are fighting bots with no personality and they are literally designed to walk straight and keep firing. what dynamic storyline can you craft with that? they die, and respawn. there is no risk for terminators and there is nothing to lose for them either.

    there was no fluid human v human antagonism, no overaching plans for a campaign, no strategies to employ, there wasn't even any of that juicy drama when it came to leadership in tech-comm, comon we couldn't even manage a coup? that's why hl2 is real good because there's so much opportunity for that type of stuff.

    you can only ride off of nostalgia for so long -- as you can see for majority of the admin team that have been loa for months. i don't blame them, or anyone else. the server was boring as fuck.

    for now i would just wait for something better to come along, paroxysm sounds pretty cool. with trp we did pull in quite a few new members, so i'm excited to see them integrate into some real good rp they missed out way back when hl2 was around.
     
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    yes
     
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    much like zrp
     
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    Except with ZRP effort has gone into an ongoing campaign and the setting is designed around the fact that eventually zombies won't be the main antagonists and instead become more of a side-threat to the human conflict (as in any good zombie fiction), which TRP didn't have.

    And by the time it did have it the staff team weren't in a position to make any big changes, despite their efforts, because the majority was dissatisfied or not interested in a serious enviroment.

    Comparing TRP to ZRP is like comparing two cars on the basis they have four wheels while one is also falling apart and missing an engine.
     
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    Actually I think they are a lot similar:

    -TRP's administration has worked hard on storylines, look at the Mexico plotline which lasted weeks and Mox's event recently.

    -Drones are not always the main antagonists anymore with the Mexicans, Silk Road, Vesties and general banditry taking place.

    -At least TRP has -some- content and canon to base itself off, as I mentioned before there is a reason we stick to content rich universes like HL2 and SRP because there are swathes of lore and plotlines to go down. Unless you have a team of fulltime professional content creators and story writers (sorry but toast writing 3 paragraphs does not count as lore)...as I said before I'll bet a fat dollar it won't last more than 4 or 5 months at best as it has no characteristics for longevity.

    But on the main topic of why TRP is dying, Jules basically highlighted them. It was never meant to be long term anyway.
     
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    Didn't TRP have 40 people on it literally a week ago..? A handful of new games just dropped, a few days of low activity seems to be the cycle. 2 days before TRP had 40 on, it was low pop for a few days also.

    We had a CCC on this last week as well
    We went in circles for a few days saying this same shit, highlighting problems we've all said before isn't the point here. Repeating the line "trp isn't long-term" while offering the same complaints gets old fast.

    Most of this falls on deaf ears- the two realistic choices we can make as average members, is to either try to think of new suggestions, or just be quiet and let trp run its course.

    And honestly, if we think TRP pop is low now, it's gonna fizzle even harder when zrp comes out. Don't see low numbers for a few days and scream "it's dead" on the forums.
     
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  10. Anony

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    wow that's amazing

    it doesn't even show him being quoted it's like he doesn't exist

    everyone do this for a better forum experience
     
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  11. Kieck

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    dude don’t fucking bother littleb is a mouthbreather and no amount of paragraphs will change it
     
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  12. Davebrown

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    good lord do we really need another thread to stir more poo into the piss pot

    yes its empty right now

    yes people do get bored of things and without a steady influx of new impressionable players it does become stale

    yes it will probably be inactive for a while due to this fact

    yes something new and fresh and shiny is on the horizon which people will no doubt play with much enthusiasm

    yes people will probably declare that the new fresh shiny thing on the horizon is the beacon of roleplay salvation for reasons x y and z

    yes for a while it probably will seem that way

    yes at some point it will then start to see the same or similar issues arise

    no i will not be shutting down TRP for whatever reason, the server will remain up and when people are ready and perhaps have taken some time away to appreciate it, they will probably come back to it

    using current game releases as an excuse for population is a load of crap - if the server was holding peoples attention they wouldnt care if a WoW expansion was about to drop or whatever



    i say let ZRP have its imminent time to shine, appreciate it for what it is / will be and instead of being on a high horse about the proposed quality of roleplay and storytelling, appreciate TRP also for what it was always meant to be and was very good at delivering.

    honestly if you think TRP was a limited roleplaying environment, id say that ZRP is even more so........its still human survival against a common enemy with inter-group conflicts.........however without the room for sci fi elements and other abstract / futuristic stuff. if its going to last as long as it has been proposed to - it will need to purely off the back of a LOT of well planned storytelling, which is certainly to the strength of those running it......however i think that only appeals to a certain demographic of our playerbase........and thus for exactly the reason many people got bored of TRPs lack of storyline, many will get bored exactly for the reason that ZRP may be too thick on it. afterall shooting zombies is only gonna be fun for a certain amount of time.



    in conclusion

    stop being dramatic and just play whatever is popular at the time like everyone else
     
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    someone post the fish chart
     
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    the fish chart is unrelated here
     
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    andrew wk being a 2018 meme is the same as rage comics comin back
     
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    I've got an idea to make TRP alive again and to make it cool
    Alright, imma detail some shit the at the top of my head;
    We go into space. Sounds shitty? well, fuck you.
    SkyNET has a death cannon or something stationed on the Moon, it's final development stage is near completion and can wipe out all resistance bases within a blink of an eye. Tech-Comm, being Technical and stuff is given the assignment to destroy the facility on the Moon ... But, how do we get to the Moon?
    You see, there was a secret government organization that were off the books entirely, their purpose was to send a bunch of people to Mars, maybe Venus or some fucking shit to colonize it and make some kinda of experiment. They built a half working shuttle to fit a bunch of people into it and send them off to Mars or somewhere. We uncover those secrets and we fix the shuttle and have a Space War with SkyNET. Infiltrate into the Moon Base, have a fucking laser show with our plasma rifles and set a bunch of explosions. We leave and watch the explosion behind our ass as we make our way home. Boom. Good shit. Far fetched idea, but that's what you get from listening to me.

    It's fun to just come up with the wacky ideas and fantasize about it. Everyone is just serious majority of the time, we all gotta relax, chill, live a little on this virtual game.
    I'll donate 100 dollars for a space suit
     
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    Why not have moon base on Ureanus lol :P
     
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    Buddy, it can be my anus or your anus or anyone butthole, bottom line is that you can contribute, I can contribute, anyone can contribute.
    We all rely on admins to do some shit and they get strained out and stressed from time to time and they just wanna relax and do some other shit. Can't blame 'em,
    @Mox @Zombiedude101 @jules @Levinx2
    i appreciate that man(girl? i forgot ...) for making a storyline for us and anyone else really that contributed
     
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    zrp is only intended to last 6 months but i wouldn't really be upset if it doesn't, i'd make some changes and readjust to reinvigorate interest and if that worked cool if it didn't i'd simply speed up the end events like hl2rp

    or i could drive the same road hoping people keep playin cus sci fi and robots
     
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    i don't think that's the focus of zrp...

    this tho.
     
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    I mean this in the nicest way possible but you have to be so incredibly disconnected from the community you run if you don't think almost everyone is here to take part in story telling, which is more or less what roleplay is at its core.
     
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  25. LandOfTheFree

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    I am afraid that a lot of people are looking to ZRP with rose colored glasses. What I mean by that is some are looking for ZRP to fix the faults that were present in TRP, and I base it by the amount of ZRP discussions that expose themselves in threads about how/what to fix about TRP. I hope ZRP kills it, but don't look at it as the grass is greener. Instead look at it as a new opportunity separate from the one TRP gave.
     
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    Rose tinted glasses is a massive understatement, more like beer goggles on a blind man.
     
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    Don't want TRP to end quietly in the dark, would be fantastic to end it on a high note with some form of a End Goal Campaign though, but we all know what the End Goal is. I think the only problem is the beginning and the end with TRP. In Terminator lore, we know at the end that John Connor sends Kyle Reese back in time and it won't be a huge surprise. It's just what's in the middle between the two. The way I see it is how're we going to get from Point A - Z at this current pace.
     
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    I think this is awesome, why not go out in a bang.

    Should have a royal rumble weekend filled with action-packed events - All deaths will be PK's and drones restricted to basic weapons to make it cinematic.
     
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    TBH, nothing stopping folks from getting on, and getting the blood pumping. Deadeye hopped on when it was literally me, and one other person who is very, very new still. Made an event out of it, to the point we had 18 or so people, thundering across mountains in jeeps and trucks trying to escape an arty barrage and an HK after a fuel run gone wrong. There is still fun to be had. People just gotta be willing to reach out for it.
     
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    To clarify, I meant that I hope ZRP does well when I said 'kills it' and not that it kills TRP. We have a few campaigns in the pipeline and there have discussions in the past few weeks about what TRP will look like once ZRP is out and where to move with it.
     
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    Action pack is cool. Issue out 35 watts to every Tech Comm Soldier, have a blast. Intense as fuck, artillery bombs, HKs, Jet battles. The whole Bang.
     
  32. Davebrown

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    well yeh...obviously...?

    im just saying not everyone enjoys super serious long-winded rp mode all the time.

    if there is one thing that has grinded my gears since the day i started roleplaying on garrysmod, it was the inherent "im better than you" mindset of players against those who like things to be a little more accessible and liteweight.

    TRP was a step in that direction, and ZRP will be a step back away from it. Theres nothing wrong with either. They just appeal to different types of player.
     
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    zrp will be the greatest iteration at tnb simply because lilb says it won't be
     
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    I don't think thats the inherent disconnect here, Dave - I don't think anyone actually believes they're superior to people who like a lighter experience (and if they do they have problems).

    I think the point people are trying to make is that while you do amazingly well at setting things up to draw new people in (anyone who doubts that or disagrees is being dumb lol) these new players aren't the ones who keep the servers going and they aren't the ones who stick around after a while and it felt with TRP like those players were the afterthought.

    The bulk of the planning and early experience went into satisfying them instead of the people who kept the server going long after those types bailed for other communities. There wasn't much of a mix there. There is one now - but this was after everyone had a plasma weapon, .50 cal and other stuff that could rip through almost any bot they went up against. You can't really rectify that very easily.
     
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    I never said it won't be great...I just said it won't last long.

    But comprehension is not your forte.
     
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    Admins can't please everyone and it's always going to be some form of a divide on what different people want and expect on the server. It's frustrating for everyone
     
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    I loved going out and shooting bots in the face - it was fun and different and exciting.

    But then you sort of realized that this was really all there was to do and you couldn't really set up any sort of campaign or dedicated events because you had to include everyone almost all the time (not always a negative but in this case it sort of was). This also then limited what events you could do to large scale assaults unless you happened to snag a patrol (to include the most players) which people got burned out over in short order when they realized SkyNET would have to S2M and what have you. This is especially true as people got better and better weapons.

    The Reaver events, the conflict with Silk Road and the Mexico campaign were the three highlights that really brought out the deeper aspects of the setting (credit to @Zombiedude101, for real). But of course you also had the disconnect (as people are used to shooting robots) of "TC is low on supplies and on the run" but decide to siege the local SkyNET camp anyway when nobody was really there to moderate it.

    Its really difficult to make a server that was built on a 'lite' experience shift to a more serious one six months in. I respect the fact that it was never meant to last and wasn't built to, but it could have.
     
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    what's that lilb? 4 more years?
     
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    I should post logs of how you squealed on SRP admin boards when you were outplayed at every turn :)
     
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  40. Anony

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    LOL please do

    never thought I'd get the treat of being roasted by lilb

    to think earlier today I had the moral dilemma of either ignoring you on the forums or not so I can moderate you from yourself
     
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